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The Accepted Successorship Nanking LiuHeBaFa




Note : 

   Chen Tuan  陳摶 or Tunan  圖南, .later called Master Xi-yi  希夷先生,  although a notable Song Court 'taoist'...and advisor to First Song Emperor Tai Zu...
.. as the alleged source of the much later named LHBF exercise [ zhu ji or otherwise ] or even the Hua Yue Men sect, all are completely unsupported factually on any level.
  
   Chen has been however an often chosen source or founder or 'co-writer' of at least five other health and martial exercises and as many progosticaian methods, and 'meta' physical ideas and methods. Each of these can also be shown to be unfactual.



 ©Khan Foxx

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Chinese

Name

Name alternate

Name Meanings

1

=>2

李 東 風

Li Dong Feng

Lee3 Tung1 Fung1

Li 'East, wind'

2

=>3.1...

3.4

宋 元 通

Song Yuan Tong

Sung4 Yuen2 Tung1

Song 'first-origin, pass-around'

3.1

=>4.1

李 梨

Li Li

Li 3 Lee2

Li, 'Pear, opera, cut'

3.2

=>x

張 繼 善

Cheung Kai Seng

Chang Kai

Zhang1 Ji4 Shan4

Zhang 'stretch, expand'

Ji 'continue, maintain'

Shan 'virtuous, kind, charitable'

3.3

=>x

張 學 禮

Cheung Hok Lai

Chang Ho

Zhang4 Xue2 Li3

Zhang 'stretch, expand'

Xue 'learning, knowledge, school'

Li 'manners, courteous'

3.4

=>x

劉 崑

Lao Kwan

Liu2 Kun4

Liu, surname, kill, destroy

Kun 'Kunlun Mts. Jiansu Province

4.1

=>5.1...

5.6

潘 致 和

Pung Chi Wor

Pan1 Zhi4 He2

Pan1 Zhi4 Hou2

Pan, surname, 'rice water'

Zhi 'give, get, deliver'

He, Hou 'peaceful 'words'

5.1

=>6.1

楊 景

楊 群 景

Yang2 Jing3

Young Kin Kwan


Yang2 Qun1 Jing3

Yang2 Jing1 Qun1

Yang, surname 'willow, aspen'

Qun, 'crowd, flock, group'

Jing, 'scenery, view'

5.2

=>x

王 進 序

Wong Jeng Jung

Wang2 Jin4 Xu4

Wang, surname 'royal'

Jin 'advance, progress'

Xu 'series-order, repeating'

5.3

=>6.2

達 遠

Dai Yuen

Da2 Yuan3

Da, 'arrive at, reach, intelligent'

Yuan, 'distant, remote, profound'

5.4

=>6.2

李 靜 然

Li Jin Yin

Li3 Jing4 Ran2

Li, surname, 'plum, judge'

Jing, 'quiet, still, motionless'

Ran, 'yes, certain, pledge, promise'

5.5

=>6.2,6.3,6.4

李 蟬

Li Tsin

Li3 Chan2

Li, surname, 'plum, judge'

Chan, 'cicada, continuous'

5.6

=>8.0

陳 鶴 侶

Chan Hok Lut

Chen2 He4 Lu3

Chen, surname, 'exhibit, display'

He, 'crane'

Lu, 'companion, associate'

6.1

=>7.1

杜 發 魁

To Fa Fui

Du 4 Fa1 Kui2,3

Du, surname, 'stop, prevent'

Fa, 'issue, dispatch, send out, emit'

Kui, 'chief, leader, best'

6.2

=>8.0

陳 光 弟

Chan Kong Dai

Chen2 Guang1 Di4

Chen, surname, 'exhibit, display'

Guang, 'light, brilliant, shine'

Di, younger brother, junior'

6.3

=>x

范 固 國

Fang Ku-Kok

Fan4 Gu4 Guo2

Fan, surname, 'bee-like insect'

Gu, 'solidify, strengthen'

Guo, 'country, nation-state'

6.4

=>x

劉 養 真

Lao Ying-Tsan

Liu2 Yang3 Zhen1

Liu, surname, 'kill, destroy'

Yang, 'raise, rear, bring up, support'

Zhen, 'real, true, genuine'

7.1

=>8.0

閻 國 興

Yim Kok Hing

Yan2 Guo2 Xing1

Yan, surname, 'village-gate'

Guo, 'country, nation-state'

Xing, 'thrive, prosper, flourish'

8


吳 翼 翬

Wu Yik Fan,

Ng Yik Fai

Wu2 Yi4 Hui1


Wu, surname, 'one-of-warring states'

Yi, 'wings, fins, shelter'

Hui, 'pheasant, to fly, variegated'



Note: all of the above data is dependent upon 'traditional....as given' history made available from teacher to student.  No archaic, archival records have ever been offered to support this record; there is also no existing archeological artifacts to support its' alleged origins. There is also Royal archives which do not support any of the claims.

Sung Dynasty, the 'Head' Emerges :
 
Chen Bo : Chen 'Tuan'  陳摶
Master Xi-yi   希夷先生
X
X
{ about 100-500 years later }
X
Li Tung Feng 李東風
' discovers instructions'.... in a cave, in a tomb '
          5-word 'verses'  are authored
||
First alleged Protege.....
Song Yuan Tong 宋元通

Chen [Bo] Tuan  = Chen Hsi-I - is the often-said creator of LiuHo PaFa,
....aka 'water-boxing. [ Neither is likely true. ]
[ Note: the word 'tomb' is also used to identify a codex within the Taoist Canon ]
 
.....this is not believed by any historian of sino-martial exercise. Chen represents a rennaisance of older ideas, rethought and repackaged for then emerging neo-taoism/ buddhism. Chen is an iconoclastic 'plug' used to create a source.  Chen does however have numerous bonefide credits given to him and both taoist and alchemical-numerology links. There are many sources that accredit Chen with I Ching mathematics, numerology, and as a source of music; the martial exercise community who only claim Chen as their founder, are usually ignorant of this. Most Chinese are unaware of either history, but know to differentiate Chen Bo, Tuan, from Chuang Po-Tuan, an alchemist and 'purple' taoist who came later, but whom some continue to confuse.
 
   The associations or alleged meetings of Notables :
>    of Chen with Chang San-Feng, a myth [born either in 960, 1247, or  1279]
>    or with General Fei, a popular legend-hero [24 Mar.1103 –  27Jan.1142]
>    or that Chen is part of the lineage to 'Lao Tse', a myth-legend and a 'tome'
>    or that Chen was a talented musician writer of songs for the Qin.
... this is all myth-making and history filling.

     Chen was the 'Song Court' representative for institutionalized taoism; it is more plausible that General Taizu who became Emperor of the First Song and who was also noted for his style of pugalism; there is also strong evidence that Taizu Chang chuan, a relatively pliant and relaxed boxing style, did have substantial influence on the later [1400] creation of Chen-jia boxing; now refered to as Chen Family 'tai-chi-chuan' [at that time it was not called this.].
     Chen was notable for his addiction with the Book of Changes and for 'sleeping' meditation; there is no evidence that he 'created' any martial art or health exercise
such as the tai-chi-chih, or tai-chi-ruler standard.
[ Note: there exists a reciprocal realation between Hua Shan and Wu Dang Shan; however the stories that Chen 'first visited' Wu Dang Temple before residing at Hua Shan...or mythic Chang San Feng 'first visited' Hua Shan before residing at Wu Dang...this is padding with accolades to enhance a stories on each side. Another factor of evidence, is that there are numerous 'authentic' documents and persons from the Song Periods and a substantial amount of this exists in its original form; no original document nor documentary evidence related to 'LiuHe BaFa' exists no matter how often a link is said to exist.
 
     There is then ...well over one-hundred years separation between Chen Tuan and text 'student', 'Tomb Raider'  Li Tung-feng [ Plum-East-Wind ] 李東風  Li Dong-feng, who it is claimed found  teachings in a cave at Hua-Shan. This is followed by 'first student' Song Yuan-song, who is the lineage 'Tome Writer' for the presented 'Five-words-adieu-farwell-verse.
[ Note: many medical-pharmaceutical manuscripts in Chinese history have been titled: 'precious instructions found in a mysterious cave.'...again, myth making.  Thus caution is needed. ]
    The actual school lineage would be after Chen Bo Tuan and in another locale:
Mount Yun [cloud] Shan, 'Hidden' Mountain, Southeast, Lok District. Hua Shan is also easily confused with Jiu Hua Shan, the scenic source for the HK movie: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, this is another possibility to consider. Also, nearly every mountain temple abode or cave often has the appelation 'cloud'.
    Also,  simple count of the given timeline to the present demonstrates incompleteness: there are too few levels of proteges from the First Song to the 1900's; about 6-7 levels of about 600 years. Thus the story line has gaps.

The Common Lineage-schema can be found at the following links :
http://liuhopafa.com/lineage.htm   Choi Wai-Lun
http://www.gmaf.org/masters.html  Robert Xavier / John Chung-Li

http://www.liuhebafachuan.com/history2.html  Paul Roberts

 
Wu Yi-Hui claims to have been taught by three teachers ...in 'Pianliang'.
Pinyin adjustment makes it plausible that this was a mis-spelling of Pianling, which is only about 60 miles of Wu's hometown, Tieling; ...this can be considered as the modern 'input' of water-style boxing Shui-quan (which seems to be the only name it was taught under in Shanghai [this is also mentioned by Dr. Tao], and where it continues to be taught under this name) ...to the HuaYo'-XinYi-Liu He Ba Fa boxing-system which was taught later in Nanking, China;   system lineage was later passed to HongKong through Chen Yik Yan principally.

Yan Guo-xing ---   閻國興 --from Henan-----------\
Chen Guang-di ---  光第 -from Hebei ==
====> Wu Yi -hui  吴翼翚
Chen He-lu   ---      陳鶴侣 -from Beijing------------/        華嶽 + 六合八法拳

Note: all resources map the lineage of three teachers of a 'LHBF' exercise to protege Wu; this does not imply that each prior 'master' was equivalent nor does it imply that any variation of Wu's teachings was due to his inputs. There does exist two special cases that I know of where alternatives were taught.  The teachings of Wu can not be simply said to be 'indoor' and 'outsider' in formate which would imply lack of openness.  Also, it has been recorded that both Yen Guo-xing and Chen Guang-di both named their teachings as the 'ideas' of 六合八法拳; whereas Chen Hu-lu claimed his teachings [and differing styling] was part of the Mt.HuaYue 華嶽 Chen XiYi-sects teachings. These differences do not seem to play out in the official lineage charting.
 

LiuHeBaFa : Certified Teacher Lineage, fromNanjing
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Wu Yiu-hui Certified 25+ Teachers- Successors

Wu Yi-hui Teacher Tree

Index

Trad. Simpl.

Spellings

Index

Trad. Simpl.

Spellings

1.1

劉 海 晝

刘 海 昼

Liu1 Hai3 -zhou4

Lao1

5.1

朱 啓 明

Zhu2 Yi3 -ming1

Qi3

1.2

劉 掁 鵬

刘 掁 鹏

Liu2 Cheng1-peng2

-feng4

5.2

區 沃 燦

区 沃 灿

Ou2 Wo4 -can4

(Qu)

1.3

劉 焕 章

刘 焕 章

Liu1 Huan4 -zhang4,1

5.3

盧 桂 耀

Lu1 Gui4 -yao4

2.1

梁 啓 忠

Liang1 Qi3 -zhong2

Yi3

5.4

菊 潑 肪

Ju2 Po2 -fang2

2.2

梁 子 鵬

Liang2 Zi3 -peng2

Leung Ji -pang

5.5

白 敬 修

Pai2 Jing4 -xiu2

2.3

梁 陰 培

Liang1 Yin2 -pei2

5.6

马 国

Ma3 Guo2 -rui4

3.1

李 鶴 海

    Li1 He4 -hai3

5.7

祿

万 禄

Wan4 Chun1 -lu4


3.2

李 孔 椎

Li1 Kong3 -chui1

5.8

郣 鬆 祿

Bo1 Song1-lu4

3.3

李 道 立

    Li1 Dao4 -li4 (wei4)

5.9

掁 山

Gao1 Cheng1 -shan2

3.4

李 煜

李見宇

Li1 -yu4

Li Jian -Yu

5.10


志 新

Yi4 Zhi4 -xin2

Ai4

4.1

張 長 信

张 长

Zhang2 Chang1-shen2

Cheung -xin4

5.11

维 钵

Wei1 -bo2

(Yi )

4.2

張 孝 存

Zhang2 Xiao4 -cun2

5.12

()

Tan1 Zhao4-sheng2

©Khan Foxx

 ====The four main branches derived from Wu Yi-hui,
>Shanghai derived 'early' teachings and 'later' variants
>Nanjing derived teachings are via his son 
>Foshan derived teaching are via long time student Lu Gui-yao
>Hong Kong teachings are via Chen Yik-yan and his students.ie. Kam Tung.

 ===Lu Gui-yao 盧桂耀 (本會旨保留及推廣吳翼翬宗師的傳統華嶽心意六合八法拳拳藝 )

Lu Gui Yao Association, Guang Dong Foshan Association

The chairman and chief instructor of the International Liu He Ba Fa Chuan Lu Gui Yao Association.

The 15 Tutor-disciples of Mr Lu Gui Yao :

Num

Lu Gui-yao Protege Teachers

Num

Lu Gui-yao Protege Teachers

1

陳輝教 (靜教) Chen Hui-jiao (jing-jiao)

9

潘 椿 (靜椿) Pan chun (jing-chun)

2

陳凱珊 (靜珊) Chen Kai-shan (jing-han)

10

譚文鋒 (靜鋒) Tan Wen-feng (jing-feng)

3

蔡健強 (靜強) Cai Jian-qiang (jing-qiang)

11

丘國安 (靜安) Qiu Guo-an (jin-gan) 香港(HK)

4

王國強 (靜國) Wang Guo-qiang (jing-guo)

12

劉偉業(靜業) Liu Wei-ye (jing-ye) 美國(USA)

5

嚴 健 (靜健) Yan jian (jing-jian)

13

陸才偉 (靜才) Liu Cai-wei (jing-cai)美國(USA)

6

彭智彪 (靜彪) Peng Zhi-biao (jing-biao)

14

許傑華 (靜傑) Hui Kit-wah (jin-jie)香港(HK)

7

潘海賢 (靜海) Pan Hai-xian (jing-hai)

15

李志成 (靜志) Li Zhi-cheng (jin-xhi)

8

潘海榮 (靜榮) Pan Hai-rong (jing-rong)


Note: see also further data under seperate document.

http://www.liuhebafa-lgy.com/scn-introduction-e.htm

http://www.fsliuhebafa.net/

 

Chan Yik Yan 陳亦人 (Chen Yi-ren, Chan Cho-fan) 1909-1982 was a disciple of Liuhebafa originator Wu Yi Hui in Nanjing.  Wu Yi Hui taught many students who became teachers., Chan YY is  lineage protégé; It is said that Chen could not match the abilities of other student-teachers; some claim this is due to a leg injury.  Chan YY taught Liuhebafa in Hong Kong and Singapore. Chan's restrictive, 'closed-door' attitude narrowed his  teachings to only six ' authorized' disciples; Mok Kei-fai was his adoptee.


Chan Yik , Disciples chosen


Chan Yik , Disciples chosen

1

龍華 Lung Wah ( Long Hua );

4

周梅天 Jau Mui Tin (Zhou Mei Tian );

2

莫其輝 Mok Kei Fai ( Mo Qi Hui );

5

何文項 He Man Xiang  (Ho Moon Cheung )

3

蔡惠麟 Choi Wai Lun ( CaiHui Lin );

6

潘俞 Pan Yi  ( Poon Yi )

http://visualwikipedia.com/en/Chan_Yik_Yan

====The two main branches of the Wu Yi-hui,
Nanjing teachings are via his son and his student Lu Gui-yao.
HongKong teachings are via Chen Yik-yan
[ the FoShan school is academic and the Shanghai school is 'ad-lib' ]

Wu, Ying-hua 吴英華, son of Wu Yi-hui; inheritor, has focused on style preservation, research, and seminar organization. A 3-Disk DVD exercise series is available as is a publication. [ See publications Section ] 南京 Nanjing, 安徽 Anhui, 淮南 Huainan     Website: http://lhbflm.com/index.asp

Recently GM Wu Yi-Hui's son is setting up an International Alliance and inviting people to joint in.

( http://lhbflm.com/ARTICLEhaiwaizhichuang/ShowArticle.asp?ArticleID=105 )

I think in the future,there will be many difference of lineage of LHBF, like Chan Yik-yan lineage, Leung Zhi-pang lineage, Li Dao-li etc. because they are so much different. I heard some senior said, in the meeting host by Wu Ying-hua, all Masters insist to play their own style and cannot unify the LHBF 66 form, so everyone just publish their own style made LHBF confusing the martial art people.”   Thomas Choi, HK.

 LiuHeBaFa-exercise Lineage:   
   Msr. Wu names 25 'teachers' taught by and qualified by him in his book; considering his lifetime of teaching,  'Thousands of students learned directly from him.'with varying levels of knowledge.

<0>Wu Yi-Hui.
<1> Li Dao-Li, Liang ZhiPeng, Liang Qi-Zhong,  Sun Di, Tao PingSiang,
Liu Xiao Ling 
      And...furthermore, notable teachers where taught by them:
<2>Fang PakXing, John Chung Li, Moy Lin-Shin, Chen YikYan
     And...notable tachers where taught in the generation thereafter:
<2>Choi WaiLun, David Chan, Kam Tung, Jiu MoonJiao

     There also exists many qualified teachers trained by Wu while in Shanghai or Nanjing who chose to remain and teach within PRC or migrated to Europe, USA, or Asean countries.
 
CHINA: Zhao Dao-Xin, Zhang Chang-Xin, Han Jiao, Zhang Wen-Guang, He Fu-Sheng, and Jiang   Hao-Quan
CN-Hong Kong, SN-Singapore,
Asean: Malaysia, Phillipines, Vietnam, Japan, Thailand
EU: England, Denmark, Sweden, France
Americas : LosAngeles, Chicago, Boston, Maryland, Florida; Canada,
Brazil,

 
Taoist Cluster : LiuHe-BaFa + Hun-Yun Yi-Qi-Zhang [pin-yin]
Wan-Yun Yat-Yei-Jeung [canton] = Original-Primordial Unified-Qi Palm